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LAist: Citizen Announces the Dodger Blue Line Subway
All comments for Citizen Announces the Dodger Blue Line Subway

• raulcruz136
  

  I think this is a great idea. We have to start somewhere. The biggest obstacle to this idea will be McCourt and his desire to continue to generate revenues from parking. What needs to happen first is a city-wide boycott of Dodger games until a plan is agreed upon by the city and the dodgers to bring rail to the stadium. I'm a native angelino but I could not stand the driving around to my favorite place. I've sinced moved to London but want to see my hometown get their act together. Let me know how I can help.

• guest
  

  This is a horribly inefficient map. They drill subway tunnels in relatively straight lines for a reason.

• guest
  

  Dodger stadium will be gone in a few years. It won't live the life of Wrigley, Fenway or Yankee Stadiums. So an immediate strategy takes place. So there needs to be DASH/Metro routes outside of 7th/Metro or Union, North Hollywood, Santa Monica, El Monte and Long Beach. Work out a deal with the Dodgers where there is a bus only lane around the stadium where there will be one specific drop off/pick up point. Forget walking up the hill or paying $15 to park or fighting traffic. Once the new Dodger stadium is built then there should be planning for new transit options.

• guest
  

  Wad, I didn't mean to suggest that LA has no mass transit - just that providing mass transit to an area as spread-out as LA is a real challenge. As extensive as LA's current mass transit system is (and yes, I'm aware of the improvements of the last 20 years - I've lived here for thirty years, including 7 years without a car in the early '90s), it still has a long way to go before it becomes a truly usable system. I'm not claiming that a truly functional mass transit system is in any way unworkable or unnecessary or undesirable - just that it's not as easy as some seem people seem to imagine, and that facile comparisons to the NYC subway system aren't very enlightening. There's a good reason that the NYC subway system doesn't have "30 mile gaps between lines": the entire system fits on a map that's only about 14 miles by 22. So it's not really surprising that there aren't any 30-mile gaps.

• guest
  

  i'd still have to agree with guest #2. and all the comments that people have made after #2 are proving the point that having a subway system in LA isn't realistic. buses maybe.

• Wad
  

  To #5: what challenge? We have mass transit. Perhaps you meant to say rail. Second busiest bus ridership in the nation. And our limited rail system has the sixth busiest ridership in the nation. L.A. went from nothing in 1990 to close to the top in less than 20 years. In 10 years time, we may be fourth busiest, just with the two other rail lines coming on line by then. And where to put these rail lines? Easy. Have them emulate the busiest bus lines.

• guest
  

  ...but note, by the way, that the NY MTA's official subway map is not to scale - among other things, they exaggerate the size of Manhattan, in order to make the map more readable. But even so, yeah, you could fit the entire NY MTA subway system rather neatly into the San Fernando Valley - rotate the map until Manhattan lines up with Ventura Blvd, and even the most distant lines - to Brooklyn, the Bronx, Queens, etc. - would still be inside the Valley. And none of them would go as far as Burbank or Glendale, let alone Downtown or Hollywood. Supplying the LA metro area with subway syatem as dense and accessible as New York's would require a system five or six times the size of New York's. -- LA MapNerd

• guest
  

  Take a look at the NYC subway or other successful and efficient subway maps and you won't see 30 mile gaps between lines.Well, of course not. Manhattan is only two miles wide. You could fit half a dozen Manhattans in the San Fernando Valley alone, and still have room left over for Burbank. Try this: get a map of New York's MTA subway system, and, keeping it at the correct scale, overlay it (you can use Google Earth) on a map of the LA area. Then maybe you'll begin to get a glimpse of the challenge involved in bringing mass transit to LA.

• Zach Behrens
  

  Sorry guys, subway is fixed instead of light rail. That's what I get for 7 days of no sleep. To commenter #2, there is nothing wrong with supplementing in concept, but the Expo Line serves USC and other neighborhoods which is every important. No reason to take that away. The purple line, whether it goes straight down Wilshire or heads up to WeHo is something not to screw with either. Extending it into the Westside is important. And I like what Fred said about what Bert Green said: I've changed my mind a bit on this because of something Bert Green said in the comments of the MetroRider post: "Right now, downtown and Hollywood are densifying at an amazing rate. I don’t believe that would have happened had the Red, Gold and Blue Lines not been built. It is probably a matter of time before growth in employment follow, as a result of the demand generated by a transit-friendly environment." At first I was of the side that said "zig zag", but the destinations in WeHo are not necessarily permanent, the Purple Line will be. Let the destinations grow from the transit, as Bert said.

• mrgerstle
  

  Light Rail?! Where does it say light rail, sentence one reads, "My conceptual subway line." PS. If you're interested, I'm altering the map all the time. This map is already outdated, as I added a Western Ave Line and an extension to the Green Line. I also plan on adding the Metrolink Rail system routes within the next week. Go Metro.

• guest
  

  What's wrong with supplementing? The most dense part of the city should be accessible. Take a look at the NYC subway or other successful and efficient subway maps and you won't see 30 mile gaps between lines. Think access. Even with this "dream" system, as it is know, only those living near the 'transit hubs' would have good access but at least it would add a few more hubs.

• Wad
  

  I have worked on a Google Map of suggested bus routes to interface with the openings of the Eastside Gold Line and Expo Line Phase I. These are presently unlisted, and I will unveil them in the fall. They are complete, but I have to go back and modify them to account for Metro's proposed December 2007 route changes. I will also write a description booklet and why the changes are proposed.