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• hubcap
  

  #37 "Everywhere in the US is now safe. Everyone in my generation has lived perfectly protected lives. We're babies, and the idea of being mugged or raped is horrifying. I could never even imagine what it's like to live in the Middle East." I don't think most of the middle east is that bad except for the war-stricken countries. Try Latin America, there's a culture of violence. Muggings in many of those countries are commonplace. I think a lot of crime (where I live) in the US is premeditated, resulting from a dispute between two parties. I consider random muggings and robberies worse since they mostly affect totally innocent people.

• hubcap
  

  this entire thread just makes me wanna go check it out even more! :P

• JohnnyBoy
  

  #36, who the fuck doesn't think the boroughs aren't part of NYC? They teach you that shit in NEW YORK CITY SCHOOLS. Get the fuck back to palookaville dickwad.

• SleepyM
  

  #36 must be a transplant. I've never met a native New Yorker that considered only Manhattan to be NYC. And trust me I've met plenty of natives, I myself was born and raised here.

• AlpineIllusion
  

  Re: #36 The outer boroughs ARE a part of New York City. Most people who insist otherwise are just trying to justify some ridiculous notion born from their view of "The City" as a status symbol. A real New Yorker craves not these things.

• Snoopy
  

  Right you are Jen. Perhaps the city can organize orientation weeks once a month and have some senior advisors take the newbies around showing where they could and should eat and play safely. Happy happy happy. Smile kids we are growing up now and if you want to play right smile. Balloons anyone? Another cupcake?

• Jen Chung
  

  I think moving to any new city is hard when you're younger--it's not like college where you're meeting like people in classes or at events all the time. You need to go out and do things you're interested in and hope to meet people that way. Maybe you'll meet people through your job and hopefully there will be one or two cool (as in common interest) people you can hang out with. But there will be lonely times, and it's good to enjoy strolls through neighborhoods on your own. Above all, you should exercise caution always, but don't live in fear. There's too much to explore and try to be governed by that.

• lifestylermag
  

  My only, and I mean ONLY, problem with out of towners typically come from the 22-24 year olds who are fresh out of college, fresh to NYC, and have the nerve to try to: a) Tell me about the latest, coolest, hippest spot, while still unable to navigate town. 2) Convince me that Manhattan = NYC. There are so many good times in Brooklyn, I dont even come into Manhattan on weekends unless something very special is going down. To the rest of the new arrivals - welcome!

• Jen S
  

  "You I like, so have a nice day; you I don't like, so go fuck yourself; and who the fuck are you?" HA!

• NannyState
  

  Alphabet City in the Eighties was "rude", what we gots here is just a certain 'fluidity', as in get the fuck outta of my face, or fluids gonna leak outta ya. There's too many people on this godamn earth to try to acknowlege everybody. We pick and choose: "You I like, so have a nice day; you I don't like, so go fuck yourself; and who the fuck are you?"

• Think twice
  

  Re: [36] You cite an interesting suburban phenomenon (of identifying oneself with a nearby Metropolis as much or more than their local community) but you need to get your examples straight. "There are many people that live in the outer boros that say they live in NYC also." Of course they would, they're still inside the city limits. Yes haterz, that means native Staten Islanders are waaay more genuine New Yorker than some carpetbagger from Pocatello, ID who just popped his survived-in-NYC-for-one-year cherry.

• Jen S
  

  Everywhere in the US is now safe. Everyone in my generation has lived perfectly protected lives. We're babies, and the idea of being mugged or raped is horrifying. I could never even imagine what it's like to live in the Middle East. GBA!

• Snoopy
  

  There are many people that live in the outer boros that say they live in NYC also. Not to mention Suffolk and Nassau counties.

• juanb0b0
  

  i'm a proud product of Union City, NJ, the most densely populated city in the country, just ten minutes from midtown manhattan and don't worry we don't want to be lumped in with NYC...it's bad enough we're getting the overflow of all the midwest transplants who can't afford nyc, hoboken or jersey city..it annoys me how these people live in NJ but yet claim NY

• whitecastlerock
  

  This new breed of transplants makes me want to hurl. This city is much nicer than it was during the early 70s. If you walked down the wrong block on the upper east side, you were gonna get mugged. This was during the day. I recall a tenement on east 94th between Madison and Park avenues that was inhabited by bongo drum playing drug addicts. My brother used to get mugged once a week on Park Avenue of all places. Now when I listen to the news and hear about some mugger on the Upper East Side the locals are all out of towners who say, "I thought this part of town was safe!" It's the wanna be natives from out of town who are the biggest idiots-fuck them.

• BXIslands
  

  I'm wagering that more than half of these kids in their 20's go to NYU. And how many are living along the first 10 L stops out of Manhattan? I don't appreciate the NYT advertising that NYC can "belong" to any naive dingus within 8 months. Rest assured that we here denizens find you "Newly New Yorkers" absolutely obnoxious, not to mention entirely conspicuous. You're not blending in as well as you may think. Please go back and trendify wherever the hell you came from.

• Snoopy
  

  Now Now Now There are plenty of Midwestern people from the other side of the Hudson that are nice and very amicable. Unfortunately they don't visit New York City unless to go to Williamsburg to visit their children.

• Billiamsburg
  

  "Travel to a place like vegas where you'll see a ton of people from other places in the us behaving like barnyard animals; treating clerks/servers/hotel staff etc like garbage. that's what i find "rude!"" This is an amazing point. I don't find 'New Yorker's' rude at all. Plenty are, but at least most know how to get by in the world. They treat people with respect. Pushing does not equate rudeness. It's the middle of nowhere Midwest, think they're big shots cause they drive a hummer, fat ass tourists that treat everyone like shit when they leave their hick town because they think it makes them seem 'important' or 'wealthy' or some shit. Fuck them.

• moonbeam
  

  ITA with Slappy (17). I moved here from the midwest quite a few years ago, and I'm still constantly amazed at how polite and patient the average NYer is. LOL, they're constantly apologizing. The vast majority of rude people I encounter in my daily life are TOURISTS!

• Snoopy
  

  I on the other hand go out of my way to help the tourists. When I see a befuddled individual with a map on the street corner, I go up to them and say, "Are you lost?" They reply, "Soho?" I point them on their way and I have a smiley face the rest of the day. In fact just today I ran into a group of Italians and then later some German tourists that needed my assistance and I happily sent them on their way. Have a nice day everyone here.

• amsci
  

  "However, those who I have found to be rude are th